I don't think that is a worthwhile challenge or good game design. Not so for artifacts.ĭerakon, my first link was a game you had as a hobbit with most all your stuff (including Celegorm) getting disenchanted, where after pouring in well over a million turns you found that this was taking any fun out of the game and making it too boring to continue. With fabulous non-artifact gear, no matter how wonderful and rare, there's a chance you'll find a replacement for your damaged stuff. Totally irreversible damage to worthy items just drains the game of interest. Rather than 'oh hey, generic monster dropped a Generic Weapon of +0.5% Better Than Your Previous Weapon! Yeah, Progress Quest!' you have distinctive items (with a backstory) which can be game-changing. It's just pissing on the player.Īrtifacts are one of the reasons Angband is enjoyable enough to bother with at all. But giving disenchantment to weak, common monsters, having those be summoned by completely pathetically weak everyday monsters, and having the disenchantment be totally irreversible isn't part of an interesting challenge. I am ok with feeling like I should either unequip stuff I care about or not melee disenchanting uniques. Sure, disenchantment isn't meant to be just a minor inconvenience. You've manage before with less.ĭisenchanter bat got summoned into the square adjacent to me. Last but not least, not always you will find a ringil and you just lost yours.

No store visit is a really *HARD* game mode. We will just keep on searching for that thing that in one shot will put it back to what it was when we first found it.īut without that opportunity, the game is telling us:Ĥ. Seriously, make no mistake, no matter how strong willed we are, if the enchant opportunity is given back to us, most of us won't just stand the idea of dropping a ringil for something less valuable and keep on with the game as intended. So if Ringil gets disenchanted from +25 to +24, you read enchant weapon to damage with the same chance of success as currently Ringil +14 -> +15.Let the grinding begin.

But instead of a new 'restore srtifact scroll', I would rather see the chance of successfully enchanting be based on the initial value of the artifact, not the (+0,+0) state.

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